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Foothills Community
An Interview with
Eliyahu Ben-Haim
Feb. 20 2006

Facilitated by: Dr Sam Tillery

I would like to welcome you all and thank you for being here tonight. I know that you are going to be blessed, encouraged, challenged and certainly have some direction for your prayer and for your walk in the Lord.

I am going to ask you to stand for a moment and let me open us in a word of prayer. Father, we stand tonight to honor you and we invite you this evening to move amongst us. Free us from any anxieties or distractions and may we hear the message that you have through your servant, Eliyahu. Speak through him and anoint him with your clear word, and then Father bring into our ears, our hearts, our minds, an understanding in ways that we have not before. That we may walk uprightly with clear minds and a vision to see this world as you see it, and the unique place that Israel has and should have in our hearts and lives. We invite you to bring blessing, understanding and direction, Father, have your way this evening, amen.

I am going to ask Greg Melick to come and introduce our special guest and he'll give you some good insight and perspective there. I appreciate you Greg and your ministry and prayer for Israel and this community, so would you come and introduce him.

(Greg Melick)

Good evening. I have been given the honor and privilege to introduce Eliyahu Ben-Haim. I first met Eliyahu in 1995. A friend of ours and this community, Will Piltcher took me over to Israel and we attended a prayer conference there which was hosted and led by a group called Intercessors for Israel, that Eliyahu and some of his brothers had been leading. I went on a tour afterwards. It was my first time in the land of Israel and I went on a tour. One thing that I remember that he said that has always stuck with me and was something that was my own interest, he said, " you know a lot of people come and they go to where Jesus walked, but you know, I would like to know where Jesus is walking and what He is doing in Israel ", and that really stuck with me.

I've gone back I don't know how many times now. I go into the neighborhoods and I go into the marketplace and get among the people and that is something that Eliyahu imparts. He imparts what is happening contemporarily and what is presently going on in the society and in politics. What we need to know today. He is going to bring that to us tonight. It's a real pleasure and there is going to be a little bit of humor, I hope that that is alright. The very first time that I met him we were at a friends that Eliyahu and I both new and I didn't know them that well, and Eliyahu came by and picked something up that Will was supposed to purchase and then bring to him. It was a holster for his pistol. Tom White had asked me to tell Eliyahu hello and that he loved he and his wife and when the world comes to an end, there is no place that I would rather be than in Israel with Eliyahu and Hannah, because I love them and because Eliyahu is always packing "heat", which is a gun.

(Eliyahu Ben Haim)

Shalom. I don't have my gun with me tonight, but the sword, I have my sword (Bible). I have injured my knee, so I trust that you'll give me the grace to preach sitting. I really do want to speak to you tonight of what I see happening in the world today concerning Israel, the Jewish people and the church.

Psalm 121- I will lift up my eyes to the hill from whence comes my help? My help comes from the Lord, who made heaven and earth. He will not allow your foot to be moved; He who keeps you will not slumber. Behold, He who keeps Israel shall neither slumber nor sleep. The Lord is your keeper; The Lord is your shade at your right hand. The sun shall not strike you by day, Nor the moon by night. The Lord shall preserve you from all evil; He shall preserve your soul. The Lord shall preserve your going out and your coming in From this time forth, and even forevermore.

Israel is in an exceedingly difficult situation right now and I have concern, not only for the nation of my people, but for the church. It seems to me that in Israel and throughout the world, much of the church is asleep. Israel itself is largely asleep or worse, we are in a pathological state where we are believing that fantasy and wishful thinking is actually going to be reality. Looking at the world concerning Israel, it looks to me more and more that we are stuck in a situation that reminds me of the 1930's.

Not only concerning Israel, but actually concerning the whole world. Seventy years ago, mad men where strutting across the world's stage threatening not only the Jewish people, but the whole world and the same thing is happening today. Even as Hitler came to power and the position of the Jewish people in Nazi Germany began to deteriorate, many Jews thought that, " Well, we have had good times, we've had bad times, we'll live through this as well and we will survive and get to something better."

What has changed? Speaking of the Jewish people, we are the same delusional people today that we were then. Even though polls tell us that most of Israeli people do not believe that the Palestinians want to have to peace with us. We do not believe that this is possible, it well actually not be possible for generations.

Yet, it appears that a majority of Israel seems to be willing to make tangible land and security concessions to those we actually believe want to destroy us. This is completely irrational and delusional. An Author named Raul Hillburg, he was writing about the passivity of the European Jews during the II World War time and he wrote, " In exile, the Jews have always been in the minority. They had always been in danger and they learned that they could avert danger and survive destruction by placating and appeasing their enemies.

A 2,000 year old lesson had not been unlearned. The Jews could not make the switch when their leaders realized that the modern machinery - like destruction process would actually engulf and destroy European Germany."

Now here we are 70 years later, Israel is a sovereign nation. More than 1/2 of our people are Sabra's. Sabra is the name given to a native born Israeli and it comes from the cactus plants and is supposed to epitomize the Israeli character, prickly on the outside and sweet and soft on the inside, but this native born Jew was supposed to be of different character, not having a exile mentality. But we are responding to our world and to our enemies in the same way that our for-father's did through thousands of years of exile. Placating and appeasing our enemies in the hope that this way our enemies will at least allow some of us to survive.

Just recently, the Israeli army's chief of staff, the number one soldier in the country, he said, "The international community of norms, according to that, the legitimacy of offensive action is on the decline and we are part of that international community of norms." That must be why Israel's response to the rockets that are hitting our villages, our towns and coming close to our power plants. Our aggressive response has been the bombing and shelling of empty sand dunes mostly and of the abandoned sites in Northern Gaza, where now the bombs are coming from.

We have dropped a lot of propaganda leaflets upon the Palestinians warning them of this and warning them of that and actually doing about nothing. The problem that we have, and I will tell you that it is the one that you have too, is that the Muslim world is not part of this international community of norms. They do not care what the rest of the world thinks or what the rest of the world does, and for us, this is the place where we live.

We do not live in a Europe that has lost the will to fight. We live in a neighborhood where we have to fight or be destroyed, and I would ask you a question. Is America losing the will to fight? From what I hear, there are too many Americans who are not willing to stand up and fight. Fight for themselves. If you think being in Iraq has nothing to do with the United States, then you are living in an illusion. The time has long gone when the United States could say, " we have the Atlantic on one side and the Pacific on the other.

We have the Canadians and the Mexicans, we don't care what the world does or says, we can live alone." Remember 911. People seem to be forgetting it. Now kasam rockets are reaching one of Israel's major cities, it's called Ashkelon. We have one of our few power plants there and this is a direct consequence of our retreat, our running away from Gaza and the uprooting of the Jewish communities there. Many of us warned that this would happen and when it does happen. You would think that they would withdraw and see that this was a bad political move, but on the contrary, both the Israel and the world. The retreat analysis considered it a positive move.

Never mind that it is putting Israel at greater risk. I wish I had the map up here behind me, because I would like to draw you a picture. You have this strip of land called Gaza, and just do north of that is Ashkelon and at the very top of Gaza there are three communities that were abandoned and ripped out. As that happened and the terrorists were able to come that much closer to Ashkelon, they actually came within range of the power plants there. So, now this place where hundreds of people used to live productive lives, has become a no fly zone and the Israeli army said that is you come into this area we are going to kill you.

So, here it is, a place where hundreds of people used to live and kept the terrorists from reaching their border, now no one can live or be there. Is this logic? Is this what the world says is a good move? A good move for who? What of the world?, Is the Jewish question today. Seventy years ago that is what it was called, today you could say what of the world in the Israel question. Because to most people in the world and especially to the Lord Himself, Israel and the Jewish people are synonymous.

If you speak of Israel in a Biblical sense, your speaking of three things, your speaking of a physical land, a nation, and of the Jewish people wherever they are on the face of the earth. Here too, as 70 years ago, we have remarkable parables of what happened then and what is happening in the world today. In 1938 after Germany made a union with Austria, and Austria became part of the greater German right, the situation of the Jewish people in Austria deteriorated within days.

The American president, president Roosevelt, called a conference in France and the theme of the conference was, " What are we going to do about the refugees?" meaning the Jewish people. The answer that came very clearly from all of the countries was. "We are going to do nothing". The Australian representative said that they did not have a race problem, and that they were not about to import one.

Hitler had a spy at that conference and he reported back to Hitler saying that he could do anything he wanted with the Jews, because the world doesn't care, the world doesn't want them.

The president of Iran has said over and over again that Israel should be destroyed and the leaders of the world have clucked their tongues and used ignorant statements like. "We won't let them visit our country".

Soccer is the big sport in most of the world. The world cup is going to be held in Germany and one of the threats that they have said to Iran is, "We won't let you come play ball with us at the world cup". Does anyone think that this kind of a threat is going to effect him in the very least? Just think of it. The world calls this man Ahmadinejad crazy as if he wasn't serious when he said these things.

Now, the world called Hitler crazy too when he spoke of destroying the Jewish people. People said when Hitler came to power that all of the Nazi's will have to moderate their politics, because now they are responsible. Ahmadinejad has not moderated his politics at all. People are saying today that Hamas who won this democratic election in the Palestinian authority is going to have to moderate their policies. Rubbish!

These people are not moderates, they are telling us what they believe, they are telling us what they do. When Hitler re-armed Germany, the world did nothing to stop him. Iran is now building a nuclear bomb and the world is doing just about nothing. Now, finally the U.S. and the European Union they say that they are going to bring this question to the security counsel.

What will the security counsel do? First of all, if they impose sanctions, you've got to realize that Russia and China are economically tied to Iran, besides the fact that they are competing with the United States. So, even if they agree to impose sanctions, what good will that do?

Lybia, a much smaller and poorer country was offered international sanctions for over 10 years, but Lybia is not Iran. What effect would sanctions have on Iran? Almost nothing. It will raise the price of oil, which will get people to squeal, but it won't stop them from building their nuclear weapons and it won't stop them from using them.

You know, maybe it's not them who are crazy, maybe it's us who are crazy.

Crazy for not believing them when they actually tell us what is in their hearts, in their minds, and what they purpose to do. Another example of these similarities: Hitler put the Jewish people in a very crafty trap. He actually designed a self fulfilling prophecy. He publicly warned the Jewish people in 1939. He said, "They succeeded in causing the world war". Can you imagine? The Jewish people causing the second world war that they would be destroyed, that that would be his response.

That of course was his plan anyway, one to start the war and two, to destroy the Jewish people. Now, by making this linked publicly between the coming world war and the Jewish influence upon that world war, he actually succeeded in removing the slaughter of the Jewish people from the stated war games of the allies. Both the American and the British foreign services, which were anti-semetic. They were able to ignore and hide the slaughter of the Jewish people to any consideration to fighting the war.

More than that, they actually stated, I mean, in the records that you can actually go and read for yourself, the British stated that if they exposed the fact that the Jews were dying in such massive numbers, they were afraid that British soldiers would not be willing to fight the war, because they would think that they were saving Jews.

Now, I don't know if that is true or not, but that is what they thought and how they acted and the DBC did the exact same things for the exact same reasons. When Winston Churchill was finally appealed to to bomb Auschwitz, the Jewish people wanted them to bomb it, and stop the gas chambers, the ovens and this mass killing of the Jewish people. He finally agreed to do it, the British air force (The Ministry of Defense) refused to obey his order and it was never bombed.

President Roosevelt was appealed to do that and he never even went as far as Churchill. It was not considered a valid war game to stop that slaughter.

About a year ago, the European Union took a poll among their neighbored nations and the question they posed was, "Which nation of the world is the greatest danger to world peace?" And the answer by a wide margin was Israel. Not Iraq, North Korea, Sudan, not these places where people are being slaughtered day by day where there is no freedom.

Do you know how many Christians have been slaughtered in Sudan in these last 10 years? None of these places came up on the radar screen, they were way down on the list. Number one was Israel. When we build this fence, I am actually against building this fence, because my Bible tells me that we should not divide the land and all of that land is God's gift to the Jewish people.

So we are building a fence to save Jewish lives. Now it is not a sure answer all, but it does make it more difficult for terrorists to come into our cities, get on our buses and kill our people. So, the world says by building that fence, we are diminishing the Palestinians quality of life. I believe quite frankly, we probably are, but how do you put this in a balance scale?

Here you have Jewish life itself and on the other hand you have the quality of life for the Palestinians, which in the eyes of the world, outweighs the very life of Israeli citizens. They have lived without a fence for a long, long time. Why do we build a fence? Because bombers are getting onto our buses, coming into our cafe's. How many of you have actually been to Israel? When you go into a mall or a cafe, there is a guard that looks into your bags and takes a metal detector and puts it up and down your back to make sure that you are not carrying a gun, knife or a bomb, and we do it not because we want to, but because we have to.

Israel becomes the cause of world conflict and the logical conclusion seems to be that we must be sacrificed so that the world can have peace. If you think that I am being far fetched, let me give you an example. In 1973, during the Yom Kippur war, the American National Council of Churches met in special session to talk about the war. First, they came up with a proposal and they called for the immediate cessation of arm shipments for both sides of the conflict. Now, remember this was before the cold war was over, so you've got the Soviet Union supplying Egypt and Syria and you've got the United States supplying Israel.

Now, do you think that there is any possibility that the Soviet Union will listen to the American Council of Churches and say, "Ok, we won't give the Arabs any more weapons." Look who they are talking to. It was a one sided resolution and actually a representative of the American Jewish congress there as a observer and David Stowe, an official of the United Church of Christ said to this Jewish man. "Israel just might have to die for the cause of world peace."

The more things change, the more they remain the same. How close are we getting to that day spoken of in Zachariah 14 when the Lord says, "I will gather all nations to battle against Jerusalem." If we do not take a firm stand based upon the word of God, we are going to find ourselves drowning in a humanistic sea of relativism.

No standards, no absolutes, just the particular flavor of the month in the world's list of good guys and bad guys, and let me assure you that Israel is always going to be on the list of bad guys. Let me ask you a question. How many born again believers, how many of you, take the Bible not only as personal instruction, but allow God to be the God of history? Not just your personal life, but for what is happening in the world today, for what is happening in your nation and in my nation.

How much of the Bible is about nations and people groups? How much of the Bible is about the coming end of the age? You know, when Pat Robinson had the courage in a very kind way to say that Ariel-Sharon was a very likeable man, and I prayed with him, but let's look at the Bible... and Pat was referring to Joel Chapter 3 verses 1 and 2. It says very clearly that in the day and at that time when I (God) will destroy the fortunes of Judah and Jerusalem. I will gather all nations down to the valley of Jehosaphat and I will do judgment with them there, because you have scattered my people and divided up my land".

This is the Lord speaking, not the prophet, not me, it's the Lord himself, it's His land. And He says, "I am against anyone who divides it." Well, when Pat Robinson said that, what happened? He said, "Now, let's look at the Bible", and he was blasted from the left to the right. The President of the United States who calls himself a born again believer criticized him, American Christian leaders criticized him or they were absolutely silent and didn't say anything.

Personally, I and many of the men and women that I am in ministry relationship with, we have quoted from and prayed from Joel 3:1-2 for years, and now the man who has divided the land has been struck down.

Don't we have to look to the word of God for guidance? Do we know that Ariel-Sharon's stroke was God's judgment? Do we know that hurricane Katrina and the destruction of New Orleans was God's judgment and it was linked to American pressure for us to abandon Gaza and the Jewish communities there?

We cannot know it 100%, but we have to look to the word of God. We have to acknowledge that God is the God of history and that He will not be mocked. We need to realize that He rules in the affairs of men and although His time-table is not ours (thank God), and His patience is beyond our understanding, yet His word will be fulfilled.

If we look at the dividing of the land of Israel we can see that it is not only Ariel-Sharon. Menachem Begin, one of our best Prime ministers, he made a peace treaty with Egypt, which was ok, but he gave away to Egypt part of the land of Sinai, which is part of the promised land to Israel.

I remember this, we went to sleep one night and Begin was the prime minister of Israel and when we woke up the next morning and the first thing on the headlines of the news was that the prime minister has resigned. He didn't even speak to the people! He wrote a little note stating that he couldn't stand it anymore. This was a man who loved being with people. He was a very gregarious man, he was a compelling speaker and he left a little note and went home to his little apartment in Televive and was never seen in public again, accept for when he went to his wife's grave or to the hospital. Was that God's judgment?

We all remember what happened to Prime Minister Ravine when he signed the Oslo record and gave away much of the land of Israel. Now, I am not saying that the assassin was led by God, but yet there was God's judgment involved.

Netanyahu, when he was Prime Minister of Israel, he inherited a treaty that said that we had to divide Hebron, he divided it and within a month he had lost the prime ministership. Actually, he is a unique politician in some ways, because he actually apologized to the people of Israel for doing it and said that it was a mistake.

I find it quite sad, but Pat Robinson in the end backed down to what he said. He gave in under enormous pressure from Israel, the United States and the church as well. And then, there are friends of Israel who have been up on lecturing us and telling us that we are losing the land, because of our sin.

Is Israel a sinful nation? Absolutely, but is it their place to lecture us about our sin? I don't think so. Please do not get me wrong, I believe that there is a place for hell-fire and brimstone teaching and preaching, in fact we don't hear enough of it, because it is a real thing.

The Devil is real and Hell is a real place. I don't want our friends to ignore or explain away our sin. Sin is sin. A relevant scripture here is Matthew 7:3-5" And while you lift the speck in your brothers eye, you do not consider the plank in your own eye. How can you say to your brother let me remove the speck in your eye and look a plank is in your own eye, hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brothers eye."

Please preach to your own country about their sin, before you preach to Israel about our sin. Preaching to us might be right, but it is not righteous. How can Christians preach to Israel, an unsaved nation, when there are still charges that have been left undone, their economic portfolio's of Israel and telling us how we are persecuting the Palestinians and not saying a word to the Palestinians about their murdering us?

Is there a right and wrong, or is everything shades of gray? Yes, we've suffered loss because of our sin, it's clearly happened twice and it has happened according to the word of God. Doesn't the word of God teach us that today the great, vast majority of Jewish people will return to the land in unbelief?

That is what the Bible says, brothers and sisters. Only once does it say, " therefore the redeemed of the Lord shall return and come with singing unto Zion." But over 100 times it speaks of the return of Jewish people from exile to the land of Israel and it's always a coming back in unbelief.

In Ezekiel 37:15-28, again, the word of the Lord came to me saying," As for you son of man, take a stick of wood and write on it, 'for Judah and the children of Israel's companions', then take another stick and write on it for Joseph, the stick of Ephraim and for all the house of Israel and him companions', then join them one to another for yourself into one stick and they will become one in your hand.

When the children of your people speak to you saying, " Will you not show us what you mean by this?"  Say then, thus says the Lord God: Surely I will take the stick of Joseph which is in the hand of Ephraim and the tribes of Israel's companions and I will join them with the stick of Judah and make them one stick and they will be one in my hand and the sticks on which you write will be on your hand before their eyes, and say to them, ' thus says the Lord God, surely I will take the children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone and will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land and I will make them one nation on the land. On the mountains of Israel, one king shall be king over all of them. There shall no longer be two nations divided into two kingdoms again. They shall not defile themselves anymore with their idols nor with their detestable things or with any of their transgressions. I will deliver them from all of their dwelling places in which they have sinned and I will cleanse them, then they shall be my people and I will be their God. David my servant shall be king over them and they shall all have one shepherd.

They shall also walk in my judgments and observe my statutes and do them and they shall dwell in the land that I have given Jacob my servant where your fathers dwelt, and they shall dwell there, they and their children and their children's children forever and my servant David shall be their prince forever.

Moreover, I will make a covenant of peace with them and it shall be an everlasting covenant with them. I will establish them and multiply them and I will set my sanctuary in their midst forever. Our tabernacle will also be with them, indeed, I will be their God and they shall be my people. The nations will also know that I the Lord sanctify Israel when my sanctuary is in their midst forever.

How much of this is a sovereign work of the living God? Was not Israel blinded by God for the sake of the gentiles, that you might come into the kingdom? Does not the Lord say that a time will come when all of Israel shall be saved and they shall be grafted back into their own olive tree?

Isn't this a sovereign work of God himself? You know, each individual has a responsibility and a need to repent and get right with God, yet concerning a nation, this is a work of and by God himself. God has not called the church to be Israel's fruit inspector. He has called the church to a position with Israel. In Isaiah 40:1-2 it says, " Comfort, yes comfort my people says your God. Speak comfort to Jerusalem and cry out to her, That her warfare has ended. That her iniquity is pardoned; For she has received from the Lord's hand double for all her sins".

This is not just proclamation, this is spiritual warfare. So, the world is seeking to drive us from our land and destroy us and much of the church is telling us that we are losing the land, because of our sin. What does the church have coming to it, because of it's sin? How come the Catholics and the Lutherans, many main line and even charismatic churches still exist when they have those who have viciously done sin for generations?

Does God have a different standard for the church than He does for Israel? Let me tell you something, when I came to faith, my dear mother, she's 98 years old now and she doesn't know the Lord yet, and so this was over 30 years ago. When she found out about me coming to faith, the first words out of her mouth were, "Now you are like Hitler, you are an enemy to our people".

I grew up as a Jew in New York and I knew the church, Christians were an enemy. I mean, what did I know about someone who was born again or someone who calls themselves a Christian? And what is shown to the Jewish people? Did it show the love of God? Did it point to Him who hung on the tree to pay for our sins? Over 2,000 years, how much of the church took that cross that Jesus paid for our sins upon and turned it upside down and made it a sword to persecute and even kill the Jewish people?

Is it any reason why it is so difficult for a Jewish person to come to faith in Jesus as their Messiah? How about us, you and me? How much did we repent from our evil ways when we first got saved? Isn't repentance an on-going work? Isn't it our responsibility to come before the Lord and say, "Lord, put your light upon me. Show me those things that are not yet surrendered to you and those things that offend you". You know, we need to separate the governmental thing that happened when we were saved, when we were forgiven, end of story.

But yet the things that we actually confess to the Lord, are just a tiny, tiny, little fraction of the sin that we have carried. Why does the scripture say, "Work out your salvation in fear and trembling"? The Lord truly wants to cleanse us from those things which we have kept hidden from ourselves. What does that say about Israel? Isaiah 43:4 says, Since you were precious in My sight, You have been honored, And I have loved you; Therefore I will give men for you, And people for your life.

In Jeremiah 31:3 it says, The Lord has appeared of old to me, saying: " Yes, I have love you with an everlasting love; Therefore with loving kindness I have drawn you." You know those people who wave their finger around at us and preach about our sin, they are forgetting that it is the love of God that draws men to repentance.

Now, God is a God of judgment, He has to be, but a judgment always has the purpose not of destruction, but to wake us up to our sin that we confess and them ask Him to forgive us. In Malachi 1:2 He says, " I have loved you," says the Lord. " Yet you say, ' In what way have You loved us?' Was not Esau Jacob's brother?" Says the Lord. "Yet Jacob I have loved. What did He say about Esau? He said that he hated Esau. Esau is actually the only person in the Bible that God himself says, "I hate this man." After all of this was said, he despised his inheritance. There is a lot of teaching today about the Father Heart of God.

I would like to read you a few scriptures that to me epitomize God's father heart. Hosea 11:1, "When Israel was a child, I loved him, And out of Egypt I called My son. Verses 3 and 4,  I taught Ephraim to walk. Taking them by their arms; But they did not know that I healed them. I drew them with gentle cords. With bands of love, and I was to them as those who take the yoke from their neck. I stooped and fed them. Verses 7 - 11, My people are bent on backsliding from me. Though they call to the Most High, None at all exalt Him. How can I give you up, Ephraim? How can I hand you over, Israel? How can I make you like Admah? How can I set you like Zeboiim? My heart churns within me; My sympathy is stirred. I will not execute the fierceness of My anger; I will not again destroy Ephraim. For I am God, and not man, The Holy One in your midst; And I will not come with terror.

They shall walk after the Lord. He will roar like a lion. When He roars, Then His sons shall come trembling from the west; They shall come trembling like a bird from Egypt, Like a dove from the land of Assyria. And I will let them dwell in their houses. Says the Lord.

In the midst of Israel's sin and backsliding, God cries out from the depths of His heart. "I love you and I will not execute the fierceness of my anger upon you. You know, while the Bible is full of the accounts of Israel's sin and God's judgment on her for that sin, it's never, never, never the final word.

Throughout the scriptures, God's final word for Israel is, "Return, Restoration and Redemption". Return is referring to the Jewish people scattered throughout the nations coming back to their own land. Restoration is the actual physical restoration of that land. If you had gone to Israel 100 - 120 years ago, it was a wasteland. Mark Twain was there and he wrote a book about it and he said that there were more Jackal's and Owls than people, deserts, nothing.

What does the Lord say in Ezekiel, He says, "Say to Israel, Prepare yourself. Strawberries growning in Israel's deserts.You are going to sprout again. You are going to bear fruit again, because your people are coming home. In Isaiah it says that a day will come when the desert shall blossom as a rose, and if you go through the desert of Israel wherever there are people living, Jewish people, it's fruitful. Winter strawberries, watermelons, flowers and even winter wheat in places that once were desert. The actual physical make up of the land has been changed in the last 120 - 130 years as the Jewish people have began to come home. And of course God's heart and His purpose in that restoration in that return, is the redemption of Israel, the salvation of the Jewish people.

In Ezekiel 36: 23,24, let me read verse 24 first which gives us the prophetic and historical time frame, " For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out from all countries, and bring you into your own land. The scripture was written thousands of years ago and it's never, ever been as appealed as it is today. Even when Jesus himself walked on the land of Israel, most of the Jewish people were in exile. Today, more than 1/3 of all of the Jewish people are back in their own land and more are coming back every day.

Verse 23, " And I will sanctify My Great Name, which has been profaned among the nations, which you have profaned in their midst; and the nations shall know that I am the Lord," says the Lord God, "When I am hallowed in you before their eyes. For I will take you from among the nations, gather you out from all countries, and bring you into your own land. The return, the restoration, and the redemption of Israel is not just because God has made a promise to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. It is a sign to the whole world that He is the Almighty God.

Do you want to see the kingdom being built on the earth? Do you want to see highway prepared for the return of the Lord? Then, labor for the return, restoration and redemption of Israel, because the Lord says that when that happens and when He begins to save Jewish people in the land of Israel that He will be lifted up Holy in sight of all the nations. Are you going to believe the word of God, or not?

In Isaiah 54:7 - 10, "For a mere moment I have forsaken you, But with great mercies I will gather you. With a little wrath I hid My face from you for a moment; But with everlasting kindness I will have mercy on you," Says the Lord, your Redeemer. "For this is like the waters of Noah to Me; For as I have sworn that the waters of Noah would no longer cover the earth.

So have I sworn that I would not be angry with you, nor rebuke you. For the mountains shall depart and the hills be removed. But My kindness shall not depart from you, Nor shall My covenant of peace be removed," Says the Lord, who has mercy on you.

Now, it seems at that moment when the Lord has hidden His face from us, it has lasted an awful long time, yet we are back in our land. Jews are getting saved in the land of Israel. For the first time in 2,000 years there is a living Messianic body, those are Jews who are believers and followers of the Lord Jesus, Yeshua. At this time, the Lord is preparing for Himself to come back.

There were words that were spoken to the exiles in Babylon and to me, they are not only true today, but perhaps truer today than they were to those Babylonian exiles. Jeremiah 29:11-13, For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, says the Lord, Thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you a future and a hope. Then you will call upon Me and go and pray to Me, and I will listen to you. And you will seek Me and find Me, when you search for Me with all your heart. I will be found by you, says the Lord, and I will bring you back from your captivity; I will gather you from all the nations and from all the places where I have driven you, says the Lord, and I will bring you to the place from which I cause you to be carried away captive.

Brothers and sisters, we need your help. We need your prayers and we need you to pray and stand with us with open eyes and with open hearts. When we stand up against the dividing up of God's land we are not ignoring Israel's sin, we are praying according to His word. His word tells us that the dividing up the land is sin itself and will cause more death and more suffering, both for us and even for our families. When we pray for Israel's well being and survival, we are not ignoring the fact that we are worthy of God's judgment. We are standing on His promise that He has brought us back and given us a hope and a future and that in that hope for that future, that we ourselves will be exalted and lifted up high in the sight of all the nations.

We stand with Israel, because we understand and believe that Israel's return, restoration and redemption is a necessary preparation for the building of the kingdom and preparing the way for His return. Maybe we need a big leap of faith, or maybe we just need to say, "The word of God is true, and though it tarries, it shall all take place." And so, all of Israel shall be saved as it is written. The deliverer will come out of Zion and He will turn un-Godliness from Jacob, this is my covenant with them.

In the natural eyes, it looks impossible, but God is going to do a work. It's not a work that will glorify the Jewish people, it's not a work that will glorify the nation of Israel, it's a work that is going to lift up the Lord and be a sign to all of the nations, Amen!

Do any of you have questions? I do not promise to answer all of them, but if I can I will and if I can't, then I will tell you that I can't. If you have a question raise your hand and Pastor Sam will hand you the microphone.

(Question) - I have a daughter who is on an outreach and is now in Egypt and I was wondering how should I encourage her to show God's love to the Jewish people?

The answer to that is found in Romans chapter 10. It tells us how to evangelize to the Jew and it says that we are to provoke them to jealousy. That doesn't mean wagging your finger at them and calling them sinners, shove a Bible up their nose or invite them to a crusade, it means letting the love of God that is within you to come forth. Not expecting anything or even looking for a response, but just loving them, because God loves them. You know, each and every human being will respond to the love of God.

Maybe there were some people that were so demonized or given over to the enemy that they'll respond in rage, but every human being has a hole in their heart if God is not in there. It is the love of God that will cause a Jewish person to say, "Why do you love me?" Then of course there is the light of the Lord that lives within us. When you are with Jewish people understand what is going on in Israel, maybe in their lives. I would never tell anyone to excuse sin, but didn't God love us when we were sinners? He died for us when we were sinners. It's not a real mystery or technique, just walk in the Holy Spirit, walk in the love of God and let it come forth.

( Question ) - Would you tell us a little about your testimony?

Ok, do we have an hour or two? ( ha, ha, ha) I was raised in New York city and you can probably tell that I am an American as well as an Israeli. I have two passports and they haven't taken one away yet. I was raised in a Jewish family and we knew that we were Jews. We were not Orthodox and we were not liberal either. I went to the synagogue after a normal day at school, we called it going to Hebrew school. I learned about some of the Bible and I was prepared for Bar Mitzvah. I knew that I was a Jew. Even though we were taught religious instruction, we were taught the moral law, but we were not taught the love of God the Father. I was very zealous.

I went to synagogue and especially after I got Bar Mitzvah 'd, I was trying to be more and more religious, and as I went into high school and then to the university, I became a hippy and I rejected religion. I was still looking for spiritual things, because in the early sixty's, the hippies actually were looking for reality and they were looking at the world and saying, "This material and godless world is not true and it's not what I want to live in."

We looked in all of the wrong places and we looked in all of the wrong ways, but actually from the hippie movement, God has taken an enormous harvest. I know that many of the scriptural leaders in Israel that came from the United States were hippies at one time and I think that there are probably many pastors and leaders in America who were also of that generation. I was living in a commune in Oregon and I decided that I needed to go to Israel, because that is my home. I went there and was there for about 10 months. I began my return to the land. I didn't have spiritual eyes, even though I was looking for them in 1969-70 and it was a hard place. I originally went there saying,  "If I can't find God in Israel, then I will go onto India."

Actually, a dear friend of mine, one of my closest partners, said he found God in India, in an Oshram. I decided that Israel was a place that had been scorched by God and there was no way that I was going to experience God there, so I came back to the United States, met my future wife. Eventually we married and then headed out to Montana to see if we could find another commune.

We had some very close friends, other hippies of course, and something happened, they got saved! I was very liberal and so I said, " Well, they are gentiles, they found the God of the gentiles. Good for them, but that is not for me." But you know something, they did not cut us off. Maybe they didn't know any better? Actually, they did, it was love. They kept being our friends, which began to provoke me to listen, just like in Romans 10. I saw that they had something in their life that was a change. They had something that I didn't have and something that I knew, I didn't want this Jesus fellow, but I wanted what they had. Well, they said," why don't you come to a Bible study?" It was being led by the man who had led them to the Lord. This man knew the love of God and some of the power of God, but he didn't know the word of God.

We were reading out of the book of Matthew when the Jews betrayed Jesus and got him crucified, and I just got up and said, " I knew it! It is an anti-semetic book, I don't want anything to do with it." My friends were just babes in the Lord, the leader didn't really know the word, so no one could explain anything to me, so I said, "Enough, forget it." They kept loving us and being our friends and being with us and eventually they said, "Well, why don't you come to church with us?" Now, I was raised believing, if I entered into a church, God would reach down and grab one of his thunder-bolts, sharpened, and would throw it down and pierce me right through my heart to the church door. I was 33 years old and had never been in a church in my life.

I went into that church, it was an Assembly of God Church, and I experienced two things that I had never experienced before. People were worshiping God. I didn't even know what that was, I didn't even use that term, but that is what it was. It was good and I liked the songs. Churches were full of hippies, mostly. If any of you came from the hippie movement, we talked a lot about love, but we did very little of it. These people in church were. And on top of it all, the Pastor was an Elk hunter and every Sunday after church he would invite us over for elk, and I love elk. So, if you spend sunday afternoon with the Pastor, you might as well stay for the evening service. This whole experience reminds me of the saying, "The Lord catches His fish and cleans them later." Elk was part of the bait (ha,ha,ha).

So, I have started to go to church, I am not interested in this Jesus guy, but I liked the people, I liked to be there and I liked the elk steak. Then, they started a little Bible study in my little village. A village of about 30 people and 2,000 cows. It was in the Methodist Community church and most of the people were not saved, even though they thought they were Christians. The first book of the Bible that I studied, which I studied in a very Jewish way, left to right, so naturally in the Bible was the book of Revelations. And so, I am going to church and I am going to the Bible study. One day, I am walking home from church. We lived in a shack that had no running water and no electricity, well we did have cold running water, but no plumbing. So, I stopped out under the stars and I prayed. I said, " God, I don't know about this Jesus. I can't believe that He is the Messiah and he's your son as my friends tell me.

They can't tell us, what do they know? I can't believe it because it says so in the new testament, I don't know that this is really the Bible, so you'll have to tell me.  You know, God is not afraid or challenged by us coming to Him and asking Him difficult questions. He is looking at our heart. So, nothing much happened that night. For the next few days, the Lord started to reveal to me my heart. Remember, I had gone to the synagogue and I had had religious instruction, and even though I was a hippie and had all of the excuses of why I could live the way I wanted to live, deep down inside I knew that I was a louse.

I didn't use the word sin, but I knew that I was breaking God's law all the time. God was beginning to show me the depth of my sin and it was getting heavier and heavier and my wife and I were finding it harder and harder. The next Sunday, I dragged myself to church, not really wanting to go and the Pastor preached the salvation message, which he didn't do every week, but he began to share how Yeshua was the savior for my sins. I went forward and confessed a little bit, whatever God had been dealing with me about. A couple days later, coming back from the Bible study again, I had stopped to pray at the same place, but this time I had stopped to thank the Lord for what He had done, and the Lord began to speak to me. He said, "You have come to me through my son Yeshua (Had He not have used Yeshua, which is Jesus Hebrew name, I would not have known who He was talking about).

You have a new family and it's called my church, My body, but you have not become a Gentile, you are still a Jew. I knew that, but then He really dropped both shoes and put about 100,000 pounds on me when He said, "This is not your home. Your home is the land of Israel, the only home for the Jews." Remember, I had been to Israel and had left and said that I was never going back. I said that I was glad that it exists, but that I was never going back.

Here I was in Montana, the rocky mountains where there were deer and bears in my backyard, fish and no city. I mean it was like the garden of Eden and here God was telling me to go back to the desert? When I had gotten home, I woke up my wife and told her what the Lord had said and she said. "Well, I don't know if your going, but I'm sure not going."

She was only a couple months older in the Lord than I was and I am glad that the Lord didn't say pack your bags and go, so He gave us quite a few years to be disciples and to grow with them and He starts to do a work in my wife's heart. After some time, I knew the day was going to come where the Lord would say, ok, it's time to get going. Finally, my wife got to the point where she said, "In obedience to you as my husband, I will go. I don't want to go, but I will go." By the time the Lord said that it was time to go, she wanted to go more than I did, because she had never been there, but I had been there and knew why I didn't want to go there. So, that was 22 years ago and it was my friends love that provoked me to jealousy. That's how I became a christian.

( Question ) - You spoke earlier about us being practical and you said to pray and to stand with open arms, hearts and eyes, but what can we do on a day to day level?

Well, prayer is prayer and it is the foundation of all that we do. Prayer moves mountains. Why did God say so much about it in scripture? He didn't give it to us so that we could be wise in our own mind. There are so many people who are revelation minded and are really into eschatology, which is the study of the end days. They've got charts and they've got books and as they are reading the newspaper they are checking off events on their chart. ( ha,ha,ha ).

Is that why He has given us the scriptures? He has given us the prophecy so that we would know the season that we are in and what He wants us to do and then He is saying to us, " Will you cooperate with me?" "Will you pray into being what I said that I am going to do?" I am not being disrespectful of the Lord, but I can give you an example. It's as if the Lord is sitting on His hands and He has given us the word and as we begin to pray the word back to Him, He releases His own hands to move from heaven to earth. One of the ways that you can do practically is you can be informed about what is really happening in Israel, and I am not just informed, remember.

He said to pray in the spirit and with the understanding. So, when your neighbors and colleagues start bashing Israel and speaking lies, you can come in with the truth. It is the truth that sets us free. Although, I want to warn you that if you are going to stand up for Israel and speak up for it, you are going to pay a price, because you are going to be attacked. You may reach one or two or ten people and allow some light to come into their lives. The other thing is that, one of the other hats I wear is the chairman of the Ebenezer Emergency Fund called, Operation Exodus. This is a ministry that helps the Jewish people return from exile to Israel. Since we started in 1991, we have been able to help over 114,000 people come back to Israel, mostly from the former Soviet Union, and so that is something that you can actually make a financial contribution to.

It costs money to get the Jewish people back. A passport can cost up to 1,000 dollars by the time that they have come back and forth and signed their papers. Some people actually go and volunteer. We do require a 3 month minimum commitment and they go into little villages, knock on doors of Jewish homes and say, "Your God is calling you to come back." I'll tell you, to have Christians come from the nations, knocking on Jewish doors and telling them that God is calling them to come home is provoking people to jealousy. Most of the people who have gone and spent time, have had life changing experiences. There are a lot of other ways that you can help, but that is enough to get you started.

( Question ) - Can you recommend any books that would be good to read to get more information on the history and all that you have been addressing here tonight?

There are many good books. One book that is a very good history book for the whole of what they call the Israeli / Palestinian Conflict is book by a woman called Joan Peters and it's, From Time Immemorial . I think that it is available. There are many books, but this one is really good on an historical level, it's not spiritual. She is a liberal Jewish woman, a journalist who set out to prove that the Jews stole the land from the Palestinians, but she actually did research and she actually wanted to be an honest reporter and she came out with the conclusion that it just wasn't true. That actually, as the Jewish people started coming back in 1880's, as I said before, the land of Israel was a waste land.

The Jewish people started draining swamps, building industry, making schools and bringing doctors, they began to attract a place to live for the Arabs, and so they began to come from all of the surrounding nations. Also, I write a prayer letter every now and then. I actually have a bunch of copies of my last one which is mostly about the elections, but I have brought those and they will be available. You can get them by internet or e-mail. There are other letters coming out. Intercessors for Israel, we have a prayer meeting every Friday in Jerusalem and sometimes that day, on the internet, on our website, we post the prayer points that we prayed for that day. We can then give you insight into how you can pray and be informed.

There are so many letters coming out. Miles might have more at his fingertips than I do, but there are a lot of good books available. You know, Israel is not only where Jesus walked, He is walking there today, fulfilling His word in our midst. The return, restoration and redemption is the living proof that the Bible is true. I can't understand how Christians and churches say that this is a political battle, when it is the fulfillment of God's word.

Things that God's people have waited for and prayed for for thousands of years coming to pass before our eyes and we don't want to look at it. It must cause the Lord to weep. I get angry, but the Lord weeps.

( Question ) - I heard that, especially in Jerusalem, that the church like, Lutherans, Catholics, that the Jews are somewhat against the true born again believers.

Not somewhat, absolutely, mostly! Someone asked me the other day how many Jewish believers there are in the land and we are about ten thousand, maybe twelve to fifteen, we don't keep numbers, but we are approximately .02% and if you look at the Arab side, the Arab Christians, those who are born again, are about the same percentage. The traditional churches in Israel are basically very anti-semetic and anti-Israel and they haven't changed much. Some of them excuse themselves quietly and say that they have to do that otherwise their people would be persecuted by the Muslims, and it's happening anyway.

Actually, two days ago I got an emergency e-mail that the Bible society in Gaza is surrounded by masses of armed men and they are giving them so many days to evacuate and get out and then they said that they are going to blow up the building. They have gone to the land lord and said that we are going to destroy your building. They have gone to the Bible society and said to get out. They have gone to the people who live in the building and said that they better get out, because they are going to destroy it. Hamas who won this democratic election is a absolute, ultra orthodox, Islamic group and under their theology, which is normative Islam, Christians are a second class people and if they are attempting to convert Muslims, that is a death sentence. Both for those who convert and for those who taught the convertees. So, these people have asked for a lot of prayer. They need to know what to do. I have to say that some of our Arab brothers that work in that community and in that situation, they are people of courage, but it's not in the main line churches. These are people who are born again.

( Question ) - Who are the Palestinians and don't they deserve the land?

Not according to God. God says that I have given it as an everlasting inheritance to the Jewish people and He does say that a stranger has an inheritance in the land, but they have to meet a condition. He says that you have to acknowledge Him and His people, so Arabs who say, "The land has been given to the Jews and I am privileged to live in the Jewish state." They have an inheritance in the land, but if an Arab says, " It is mine and the Jews have to go."

God says, "I have a controversy with you." Actually, what He says is some very stiff judgment, so maybe in the eyes of the world they have a claim, but not in the eyes of God.

The reality is that they don't just want Gaza, they want the whole land. This may sound very strange to you all, but I and many of my colleagues prayed that Hamas would win the election, because spiritually, Hamas and the Palestinians are the same. The difference is, the Palestinian authority says in english one thing to the world, but in Arabic they are saying the same thing that Hamas is saying, that they are going to drive the Jews out of the land into the sea, it's all para-led, so it's better for the truth to come out.

It will challenge people and are we going to live with the truth, or are we going to be back in the 1930's which is what I am seeing happen. Spiritually, their purpose is the exact same thing, it hasn't changed. With the Palestinian authority that has been over the past 10, 12 or 14 years, which glorifies suicide bombers as the epitome of Palestinian society, it's not just Hamas, it's the Palestinian authority. What did the Arabs want to say, "In fire and in blood, let them break Jerusalem."

He didn't say, "Let's sit down together with the Jews and we'll make a peace treaty and we'll get a little bit and they'll get something." No, they said, "In fire and in blood." They have never given up the arm struggle, as they call it. You know, we live in a place where if someone gets on the bus and they look a little strange, you put your hand on your gun. A man that I know, who is a gun instructor, he was coming to work with me on the bus and a guy got on the bus and started clicking, and as my friend went for his gun the man set the bomb off. This friend of mine is now paralyzed from his neck down, but actually, because he went for his gun and the bomb went off, it went off on a virtually empty bus and it was going to a bus station where it would have been filled with people. This is what we live in.

The only solution is the salvation of the Palestinians and all. People ask how we can have peace and I say that without Yeshua, we cannot have it. The former Chief of Staff, in his parting address to the people of Israel said, " We've been fighting for over a hundred years and you don't want to hear this, but we are going to have to fight for at least another hundred years. The people we live with and the people who surround us all want to destroy us." What is happening in Israel?

There is a wonderful quotation that Winston Churchill left. The British army is driven out of Europe, all of Europe is under Hitler's sway and the next invasion will be Britain. Winston said to his people, "We will fight on the beaches, we will fight in the hills, we will fight in our mountains and if they invade our country, we will fight in the city streets, and if they conquer us, we will fight from the underground until we have victory."

The present Prime Minister of Israel may be defeated at the end of next month. He said just a little while ago, "We are tired of fighting. We just want to be left alone in peace." I think that many americans feel the same way, but it's not. I ministered a lot in Europe and Europe is a post-Christian society. They have lost moral standards and the will to fight. Let me tell you brothers and sisters, Islam has NOT lost the will to fight.

Please, don't get me wrong. God loves the Muslim people. He died for them just like He died for you and me, but God hates Islam. Islam is a principality. It's a world movement that has influence all over the world. Normative Islam says that we are at war until all of the earth comes under the sway of Islam. When the President of the United States thinks that Islam is a loving religion, he is deceived. Islam is a militant religion that believes that to slaughter is good. That to get on a bus and blow up innocent men, women and children just because they are Jews, is OK!

It's a religion that says to hijack an airplane and drive it into the Pentagon of the World Trade Center is OK and those men supposedly went to paradise where they have 70 virgins waiting for them. This is what they believe brothers and sisters. About a year ago on Palestinian t.v. they were interviewing two 12 year old girls and the interviewer said to them, " Which of these two are better, to have a Palestinian nation or to be a jihad (to die killing a Jew)," both girls said it would be better to be a jihad.

They said, " We don't want this world, we want the world to come, through death." When Palestinian children play, they dress up like little suicide bombers. This is a people and a culture that has been trained to hate. Only God can deal with this. I mean, if you want to use human education which they have not done, it would take generations to get them out of this. It is only by the hand of God that can deal with this. Left to themselves, they are going to be destroyed. So, this is reality brothers and sisters. You live in a beautiful place. I used to live in California, but I have been delivered to Israel. (ha,ha,ha) Sometimes when you are living in such a beautiful and easy place, it's hard to interpret reality, but God wants us to look at reality, remember, it is the truth that sets us free.

( Sam Tillery )

We are going to have Miles come up and invite you to respond to what we have just heard and then for those of you who would like to stay, we will be having a time of actually praying into and for Israel, so this first part is come to a close now, but please stay and join us in some scripture and prayer time for Israel.

Special Thanks to Christelle Eddy who transcribed this document.

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